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                            Saturday, 3 June, 1995
       
     Bivalia:[a] Greetings, beloved one.  And how are you this fine day?
 
       
       Michael: Okay, I guess.  How are you?
 
       
     Bivalia: I am very well, thank you.
 
       
       Michael: I don't suppose I have anything very important to say just now.  
  Well, perhaps I do, but I'm not about to go into that now, because I won't 
  have enough time just now.  So for right now, I don't really have a lot of 
  importance to say.
 
       
     Bivalia: It matters not; it is more than enough that you simply wish to be 
with me, and to have the consciousness of so many Masters around you, such as the 
ones you just called upon, and indeed the consciousness of God Himself.  And, 
yes, he does understand why you don't speak directly to Him as often as you 
might, just as you have asked Him to understand a minute ago.  He is full of love 
for you, and doesn't hold it against you at all.  He knows how dense your world 
is at present, and understands how that can draw the veils across the spiritual 
awareness of so many people.
 
       
       Michael: It appears to me that I am coming to you in such sessions for 
  more and more trivial reasons now.  Once upon a time, I did so with a sense of 
  some importance, because I had something important to discuss; but now I 
  sometimes start a session with only a small reason in mind, or sometimes even 
  no reason at all.  Perhaps I am subverting the purpose of these sessions.
 
       
     Bivalia: No, my beloved friend; not subverting - merely broadening.  It is 
entirely a change for the better.  You see, in the beginning, you only came for 
big reasons, but not for small ones (not nearly so often, anyway); but now you 
have it both ways: you still come to me for the big reasons, when they come up, 
and you also come for the small reasons.  I do not make a distinction between the 
big and small reasons, and count the big ones as more important; each reason you 
come to me with is important at that time.And what reason, big or small, brings you here now, beloved one?
 
 
       
       Michael: Well, it sounds odd to say it, now that it comes to the point.  
  But it was such a distinctive day today, in terms of its atmosphere, quite 
  beautiful in a way.
 
       
     Bivalia: Yes.  Indeed it was.  I am not unaware of such things myself, and 
I agree with you.
 
       
       Michael: I somehow just felt like discussing it with you; I don't know 
  why.  I suppose because it seems to remind me of that sense of magic or 
  wonder, that hint that great and wonderful things are to be found somewhere, 
  that a great and wonderful way of life might, if I'm lucky, await me one day, 
  somewhere in the universe.
 
       
     Bivalia: You are lucky, my friend.  It does await you, and you might be 
surprised at how soon it might come.
 
       
       Michael: It was a clear day, but sort of washed out in a sense.  I went 
  into town about a quarter to five, so, being out of doors, I noticed it round 
  about that time.  It was rather misty, the sky a hazy blue, and the sun (by 
  that time) a golden-orange ball low down in the western sky.  It was so muted 
  by mist that its circular shape was quite distinct, about the size of the 
  moon, unlike most days when it is so bright that you can't look at it even for 
  a second, and if you glance it, you don't really perceive its circular shape.  
  But this time you could.  Of course, I didn't look at it any more than out of 
  the corner of my eye, because it is dangerous to look at even when shrouded in 
  mist like that.  Everything seemed pastel-coloured somehow, as if all the 
  colours (especially in the sky) were diluted with white and yellow and pale 
  blue, and the colours looked as if they were starting to blur into each other 
  a little, like the most delicate of water-paintings.  The light itself seemed 
  to be pale liquid light of various pastel colours.  Distant objects 
  (buildings, and the like) were smudged with blue-grey mist.  And there was a 
  very distinct atmosphere, one I've occasionally seen before on such days.  It 
  seemed to remind me of something, but I don't know what.
 
       
     Bivalia: There is a whole hidden world, hidden from your everyday 
3rd-dimensional consciousness, that is, which a deeper part of you knows about.  
That deeper part is not only me, your Higher Self, but even parts of your 
3rd-dimensional mind, especially parts of it known as the unconscious, but even 
little bits of your conscious mind too.  You lack the 3rd-dimensional language to 
describe those hidden things, except in the most indirect ways, but those hidden 
things are interconnected in all sorts of ways with 3rd-dimensional things, the 
things of everyday life, the things of which they are the higher-dimensional 
equivalent, in a similar way to how I am the higher-dimensional equivalent of 
your 3rd-dimensional self.Those hints of wonderful and magical things that everyday objects or 
situations seem to suggest but don't actually manifest are those connections 
with higher dimensions impinging on your everyday mind.  These connections are 
why physical objects or places or events, sometimes even quite plain ordinary 
ones, can seem to have a particular distinct atmosphere or personality beyond 
anything you would think the physical attributes of the object or place would 
account for.  Sometimes you are quite unaware of why the ordinary object or place 
seems to have such significance, and it can be puzzling, but unconsciously (and 
sometimes even a little bit consciously) you are perceiving the connections 
between the object and its spiritual essence; for everything in your world has a 
spirit just as surely as a living being has a spirit.  Ultimately, there is no 
distinction between the living and the non-living anyway; the so-called 
difference is simply a difference of degree.  And connections exist between the 
physical object and its spirit, which comprises its very essence, which is not 
less real than the physical object, but more real.  And as long as you keep being 
receptive to those connections, as long as you don't cynically dismiss them as so 
much nonsense, they will grow stronger and more real as time goes by.  Don't give 
up on this, my friend.
 
 
       
       Michael: No.  I don't think I will, anyway, although I probably come 
  perilously close sometimes.
 
       
     Bivalia: You are more worried about that than I am.  One day, those 
connections will become more and more real, and turn into reality itself.  Keep 
on; I am longing to accompany you on some long and glorious journeys of 
exploration of those realms you dream about, both in your sleep and in your 
daydreams.
 
       
       Michael: It'll be good, won't it?  But please be patient; it may take me 
  longer than you think, because I have a lot of nasty stuff to deal with in 
  this world that is (seemingly) trying to hold me down in the mire.
 
       
     Bivalia: I will wait as long as it takes, beloved one, meanwhile giving you 
all the help I can.  There is no such thing as too late in the spiritual world, 
and you have no idea of how liberating that knowledge is, in contrast to 
religions which think once you die to your world it is forever too late to go the 
right way.
 
       
       Michael: Oh, yes, Bivalia, I have a pretty good idea of how liberating it 
  is.  That feature of Christianity (many branches of it anyway) is the main 
  reason I am not a Christian.
 
       
     Bivalia: Yes; but it is even more liberating than you are now aware of.  I 
have seen back-slid Christians in the next world, people who once really believed 
in hell, perhaps who still do, but who have just drifted over the years from 
Christianity as they understood it.  I have seen them in the next world initially 
full of fear that they might be in hell, then I've seen the look on their faces 
as spiritual guides, full of compassion, let them know they weren't in hell after 
all, that the whole idea was just a horrible nightmare that was now over.  It is 
heart-warming to see how liberating this insight is, and it makes my heart ache 
that so many people in your world believe in hell, that so many religious leaders 
still teach this doctrine, either explicitly or by implication.
 
       
       Michael: I'm sure you're right.  Anyway, I didn't mean to get onto that; 
  I'm not really in the mood for theology at the moment.Today somehow seemed like Indian summer, although I don't think Melbourne 
  ever really has a genuine Indian summer; and it's a bit late for that anyway.  
  But it was certainly like it, with the blue sky, tiny wisps of cloud, the hazy 
  atmosphere, the muted colours, the orange sun, and all the rest of it.
 
 
       
     Bivalia: Yes, it is very beautiful, isn't it?  Even if your part of the 
world is not one of those that regularly has Indian summer as a distinctive 
phenomenon, bits of it can come at any time, as you have seen.  Nature does not 
always follow rules formulated by men, and you doubtless realize that the 
so-called rules are simply generalizations of what is observed to happen on the 
whole, not ironcast rules that must never be broken, and so you will occasionally 
see exceptions to them.
 
       
       Michael: I suppose the thing that didn't quite fit was that it was a bit 
  colder than I would normally think Indian summer would be; but then, it's just 
  into winter, and Indian summer usually (according to books I read years ago) 
  happens in mid to late autumn, lasting from a few days to a couple of weeks.
 
       
     Bivalia: Never mind.  If you are drawn to it, just enjoy it while you can, 
my friend.
 
       
       Michael: It's a pity I'm not out in the country to enjoy it properly, but 
  stuck in this ugly city.
 
       
     Bivalia: You will one day not too far off be living in a wonderful place 
that will be much more beautiful than your country areas presently are.  And you 
will be pleased to know that all the natural phenomena you find beautiful exist 
in the higher realms in analogous forms.
 
       
       Michael: Yes, I wonder about that.  Some of the accounts of the 
  after-life I've read say that there is no night and day, that light is always 
  present, that there is no visible sun, the light is just there, and that the 
  weather is always fine and bright, and doesn't vary.  Sounds a bit boring to 
  me.
 
       
     Bivalia: There are regions like that in the astral plane: very pleasant, 
but I agree with you, a little too lacking in variety for my liking.  Some people 
like it that way, however.On the astral plane, matter responds to thoughts, especially ones 
accompanied by emotion, and those who expect that arrangement (or desire it) 
create it for themselves.  The cumulative effect of many people thinking the same 
way (at least on this matter of a constant climate) is sufficient to make it so 
for many thousands of miles, for entire planets.  Some of the inhabitants might 
believe that's the universal arrangement for the entire astral level; even if 
they travel far and wide, they would still tend to be attracted to similar 
regions of the universe.  But there are other regions, both in the astral, and 
higher, where this constancy of climate is not the case, where people appreciate 
the variety of weather patterns, and other natural phenomena, which you enjoy on 
earth.
 
 
       
       Michael: I may often grumble about the weather, but what I would really 
  want is not to have it always exactly the same, sunny, no clouds, no wind, and 
  so on, but to be in a better position to protect myself from some of its 
  effects: you know, to be able to warm myself better (or cool myself), have 
  better transport arrangements on rainy days, and the like.  I've often been 
  aware of the paradox that I sometimes hate the weather that's on (storms, 
  rain, wind, and so on - or, sometimes, too much sun), because it causes me 
  such discomfort, yet at the same time somehow liking the atmosphere of it.
 
       
     Bivalia: Of course.  I know what you mean.
 
       
       Michael: I think I said in a much earlier session how in a way I like 
  storms and all sorts of things, if only I were better able to protect myself 
  from their discomfort.  Although I must say there are grey nondescript days 
  that even atmosphere-wise don't seem much.
 
       
     Bivalia: Well, I suppose they do have their own atmosphere, but not every 
atmosphere necessarily appeals to you equally.  And there might come a time when 
you may be able to appreciate those grey days.  But at present, prone to 
depression as you are, it could be that those days have an adverse effect on your 
mood, and that may inhibit your ability to appreciate the particular atmosphere 
of such days.  If you find thunderstorms, wind, and other conditions generally 
considered unfavourable, easier to enjoy, well at least something is happening 
there - storms especially have a sense of drama, of excitement; but on those grey 
days, nothing much is happening, and a gloom is just settling over everything, 
perhaps with a fine continuous drizzle.  One day it will affect you less, 
emotionally, and you might one day see a quiet beauty in those days.  It is 
possible, ultimately, to see beauty in almost everything, once you have the 
consciousness to be able to embrace them.
 
       
       Michael: What puzzles me is why a particular kind of day seems to have 
  such a unique atmosphere.  It's quite impossible to describe accurately, 
  although I've tried on various occasions, in sessions with you, in letters to 
  various people, and the like.
 
       
     Bivalia: Well, my friend, it is like I said before.  Objects have a spirit, 
and the idea of things having a spiritual essence, a spirit like a living being 
has, also extends to abstract ideas.  It is no fiction to talk about the spirit 
of rain, or of storms, or of sunlight, or of cirrus clouds, or of cumulus clouds, 
or of any phenomenon, natural or man-made, that you care to dream up, however 
specialized and particular it may be, or, on the other hand, however general it 
may be.  For instance, in the day just finished which you described a little 
earlier, there are nature spirits and angels who are attracted by that kind of 
day, by those kinds of colours, and so on, who come in closer, and who make their 
influence felt (by those who are sensitive to them) more strongly on such days.  
They positively revel in it.  I think one day you will delight in being able to 
see them, and even join them in their expressions of joy.  This is momentous 
stuff, the revelries of these spirits, and in one sense their activities are what 
drives the universe; they play a big role in the very evolution of the universe.  
You are able to pick up the momentous nature of their activities, which is why 
something such as a day of a particular atmosphere gives you an unidentifiable 
feeling of something momentous, something great, wonderful, and exciting, even 
though rationally you cannot see why this should be so.These beings are so attuned to the particular conditions they are attracted 
to, that it is no exaggeration to say that they are the spirit or essence of that 
phenomenon.  And yes, there is a class of nature spirits ranging from fairies to 
devas who could be regarded as the spirit or essence of that kind of 
misty washed-out day with wispy films of cloud and mellow orange sunlight, and 
all the rest of it.  And there are others who are similarly the essence of any 
other kind of day you are capable of thinking of, or of any kind of natural 
occurrence or phenomenon.
 Many of the indigenous peoples of your world, who are (in some cases) still 
closer to nature than Western man is, and closer to things of spirit, are quite 
right in talking of the spirit of a tree or of a place or of anything at all.  It 
is not merely figurative, not merely mythological, although many Western people, 
in their ignorance, may choose (sometimes rather patronizingly) to see it that 
way.
 
 
       
       Michael: Well, that would seem to explain a few things that occasionally 
  have puzzled me.  From what you say, it would seem that I am one of those 
  people who are sensitive to these spirits you're talking about.
 
       
     Bivalia: Why, of course you are, beloved one.  I thought we both took that 
for granted.  You may not yet be consciously aware of the spirits themselves as 
beings (that is only a matter of time), but still quite a high degree of 
sensitivity on your part to them is demonstrated by the highly-tuned sense with 
which you feel an "atmosphere" in a place.
 
       
       Michael: It is puzzling as to why the idea of Indian summer fascinates me 
  so much.  I mean, prosaically, it might seem to be little more than simply a 
  period of warmer, dry weather occurring in mid to late autumn, and thus 
  usually surrounded, both before and after, by colder wetter weather, perhaps 
  even by storms.  Well, it might be a little more, because one or two of the 
  encyclopaedias I consulted about Indian summer years ago described it not only 
  as this, but also described specific weather patterns and conditions, about 
  warm air being trapped over a certain region, about mists building up, and the 
  like; but even if we grant this slightly more specific definition of Indian 
  summer, it would still hardly seem to account for its fascination for me, 
  hardly seem to account for its very distinct atmosphere.  It would even less 
  account for the way Indian summer (something I've never experienced in its 
  pure form, as described above) seems to have so much of a momentous feel, an 
  excitement about it.  But your theory about everything having a spiritual 
  counterpart, its very essence, seems to account for it.  You would in effect 
  talk of the spirit of Indian summer.
 
       
     Bivalia: Of course I would.  There is indeed a class of nature spirits, of 
great variety in many other ways, which nevertheless have it in common that they 
are strongly aligned with the sort of conditions that prevail in Indian summer as 
you just described it, which are indeed at their most active in autumn.  Yes, one 
can describe them, collectively, as the spirit of Indian summer.  And it happens 
that there is also an attraction between them and yourself (and myself, too, 
remembering that you and I are not really separate entities, deep down).  This is 
why you feel that fascination, which is so strong that you have for many years 
wanted to write music about Indian summer.I made it sound as if Indian summer occurs for purely physical reasons to 
do with the weather, and that this attracts those spirits.  Well, this is true, 
on one level; but, as usual, things are not quite as simple as that.  In another 
sense, these spirits go through life-cycles of their own, and at times they, on a 
certain level, beyond the physical, could be said to cause the Indian summer 
conditions.  When you have a higher perspective than the purely physical, logical 
one, there is a sense in which causality is different from its everyday 
perception, and in which you can say that A causes B, and B simultaneously causes 
A.
 Yes, the Indian summer (which on a certain level does have perfectly 
ordinary physical causes) does cause the Indian summer spirits to gather (and you 
should see how they revel in it!), and at the same time, the spirits, at the 
appropriate times in their lives, do things spiritually which have their effect 
on the physical world which mirrors their activities, and these effects can 
include the causing of Indian summer conditions on the physical level.
 And of course, we were only using Indian summer as an example.  The same 
kind of reciprocal relationship between matter and spirit occurs in every other 
phenomenon or event.  It makes no difference if it is natural or man-made, 
although the exact nature of the spirit, or of the "atmosphere" people like you 
might perceive, changes according to how closely linked with humanity it is.  
There's no denying that, for better or worse (sometimes both at the same time), 
humanity is one of the most prominent influences on your part of the universe, 
both physically and spiritually.  (And I use the term "spiritual" there as a 
convenient catch-all term to embrace the astral, the mental, the Buddhic planes, 
and so on, although this is not strictly speaking correct; those planes have 
their own nature and identity just as much as the physical does, but that is 
rather difficult to describe in words, and I'm not sure I can do it now with the 
way of using words you habitually use, which, generally speaking, I am 
constrained by in channelling through you.)
 
 
       
       Michael: Well, I'm sorry to throw a wet blanket over all the nice poetic 
  ideas we've been discussing, but I'm afraid it's quite likely the misty 
  effect, the washed-out colours, the orange sun, all the Indian summer effects, 
  and so on, were caused by something as unromantic as pollution, at least here 
  in the city.
 
       
     Bivalia: Possibly.  It doesn't really change what I said.  Humanity does 
have its effects on your planet, and even when some influence is on the whole not 
good, it can have pleasant side-effects.  And you might recall that in earlier 
times, before industry was so heavy, the misty effects were caused by the wood 
fires that were once much more common.  Didn't Indian summer get its name in 
North America because earlier settlers in that region noticed the misty effect in 
calm weather caused by the fires of the so-called Indians?
 
       
       Michael: Something like that.  I do seem to recall reading that, but the 
  details escape me now.
 
       
       Michael: In any case, the name derives from the American Indians, not 
  the country of India.  Perhaps the name "Indian summer" is a bit of a 
  misnomer, in that calling the indigenous Americans Indians was a mistake 
  anyway, way back in history; but for all that, the name "Indian summer" really 
  has a mystique, a personality, almost.
 
       
     Bivalia: Well, what I said before applies to names too, whether or not they 
are historically mistaken.  A name has a certain spirit too, which can modify the 
spirit of the thing being named, in a rather subtle way.  More precisely, it 
modifies the interface between the spiritual essence of the thing and its 
physical manifestation in your world, so that changing a name often changes the 
way people perceive the thing.  We discussed this aspect a couple of sessions 
ago, with regard to the names of trains.
 
       
       Michael: Yes, I see your point.  Although we seem to regard smoke of any 
  sort now as pollution, somehow the earlier causes of mistiness, such as wood 
  fires, seem more innocent, and a lot more wholesome, somehow, than the modern 
  causes of pollution, which carry connotations of nasty poisonous chemicals.  I 
  find it a bit of a paradox that the lovely misty effects I like so much, which 
  really seem to have that sense of wonder, are caused by something as unclean 
  and undesirable as pollution.
 
       
     Bivalia: Well, misty weather conditions do exist in other realms beyond the 
physical, and they do not always have their origins in pollution.  There are so 
many natural processes in higher realms which are not found in your world, and 
the whole realm of nature covers vastly wider possibilities, and some of those 
conditions do indeed cause mistiness, which is not tainted with those 
connotations of pollution.  No doubt your dim awareness of this accounts for your 
liking of mistiness, because I don't think I'm mistaken in saying you don't like 
pollution as such, even if you like the misty conditions it can cause.
 
       
       Michael: No, I see nothing romantic in pollution itself, no suggestion of 
  wonder or magic.  Well, almost nothing.  I must admit there is a certain grim 
  mysteriousness to those scenes of pollution which might be described in a 
  science fiction novel of the future, where pollution is really bad, which 
  might even be depicted on the front cover in garish lurid colours.  Such 
  scenes can be intriguing, and have a rather dark atmosphere which (from a 
  distance, at least) can be appealing (in a sense), but that is quite a 
  different sort of appeal, and I suppose not as strong.  But it illustrates the 
  truth of what you said before, that even undesirable conditions can, almost 
  accidentally, have side-effects which can be intriguing or fascinating, even 
  enjoyable sometimes.
 
       
     Bivalia: You are learning, my friend, not to see things in such black and 
white terms.  I think at times you have been like this, perhaps still are in some 
matters.  Learning to see attractive aspects of pollution (just as an example) is 
a good exercise in getting beyond the limitation of seeing everything as all good 
or all bad.  Life itself is not usually that neatly classifiable.But you may be sure that the side-effects of bad conditions (like 
pollution) which nevertheless have an appeal, a fascination, an atmosphere which 
you can enjoy (even if only from a distance), also exist in the higher realms and 
have a more wholesome origin there.  The very fact that a part of you finds them 
fascinating, even "good" in a sense, indicates that the fundamental origin of 
those side-effects is more wholesome, more aligned with good, with what we call 
the "light".  If that was not the fundamental origin, it is difficult to see why 
those side-effects of something bad might nevertheless appeal to you.  You are 
able to think of things, are you not, that undeniably have their own atmosphere, 
their own identity, which you can recognize, yet which do not appeal to you in 
the slightest, even in the vague obscure sense in which a polluted 
landscape might have?
 
 
       
       Michael: Yes.  Oppression, deceit, conformism, power games, 
  commercialism, destruction, torture, murder, pain - lots of things.
 
       
     Bivalia: Of course.  Those things are not of the light at all.  Pollution 
(to continue that example), is not either; but it is at least possible that some 
of its side-effects do have an origin on higher levels that is more of the light, 
or at least not opposed to it.  Things can have more than one cause from one 
instance to another.  Life is not black and white, not all-good here and all-bad 
there.  Good and bad are woven together intricately, sometimes in very intimately 
linked patterns.Now, I am not of the persuasion that good and bad must eternally co-exist 
in the universe, each being a foil for the other, like yin and yang which must be 
balanced in equilibrium, and which, if the balance is upset, must be restored to 
equilibrium.  I do believe good must eventually prevail and evil banished, but it 
may take its time.  The good and evil that are so intimately and intricately 
intertwined will eventually be sorted out, but the knottiest parts of such 
tangling might have to wait for the universe to evolve to higher planes (or at 
least for the parts of the universe where the tangling is located to evolve to 
higher planes); meanwhile, yes, the good and evil are (for the present) 
inextricably linked, and this has led some people to believe they must be so 
linked for ever.  I cannot bring myself to believe that, however, if you want my 
opinion.
 
 
       
       Michael: I agree with that.  At least, I don't really know, but that is 
  the attitude I am strongly attracted to.  I want it to be so, and the sooner 
  the better.
 
       
     Bivalia: Alas, parts of the totality of evil cannot be removed as quickly 
as you or I would wish.  You might ask why God cannot snap His fingers (so to 
speak) and make evil vanish in a puff of smoke.  Perhaps now is not the time to 
go into the question of evil, which we have discussed before anyway; but it might 
be apposite to say in this connection that God Himself is evolving, and that 
perhaps He cannot eliminate evil, but is learning how to do so, as we are.  He is 
helping us evolve, but we are also helping Him evolve.Perhaps we are all in a forest, and He is ahead of us, scouting the way.  
He is more powerful than us (for now), because after all we are 
not-yet-fully-realized portions of Him, and is better placed to see the right way 
to go, and He sends back whatever information He finds out, to guide us.
 But we, further back, also support Him in a sense.  We give Him logistic 
support, so to speak, supplying Him with the resources to serve the common 
purpose of evolving, growing in awareness, reducing the role of evil in the 
universe.  Every time we do good in this world, we are serving His cause, and our 
own.  Every time we hurt others, or repress knowledge, or impose conformity, we 
hinder that purpose, create another obstacle that needs to be overcome, which 
will be overcome, but which slows things down.
 That is a rather inadequate analogy to how I see the whole business of 
evolution, and the role of good and evil in it, but you may find it a useful 
image to use at times.  The important thing to realize is that God is on our 
side, not putting stumbling blocks of evil in our path.  If you could see even 
just as much as I can, no more, how full of love He is, you could not possibly 
believe He would want to do anything with evil other than to eliminate it as fast 
and as completely as He can.  But there are limitations here even for Him, 
although they may seem far less than your limitations as a human, or even mine as 
a Higher Self.
 There are questions of free will involved here also, and although I know 
you have difficulty with many of the conventional explanations as to how free 
will is interlinked with good and evil, and perhaps I have difficulty with them 
too, I can at least say that free will does have ramifications which do have a 
bearing on the problem of evil, from God's point of view.  But it's certainly not 
as simple as some of your theologians have made out.
 I know you think I'm copping out when I give vague answers on this most 
bothersome question of evil.  But I can assure you that a correct view is very 
subtle, and the words to describe it scarcely exist in physical languages.  If 
this were not so, some of your thinkers would have stumbled on the correct view, 
or at least something like the correct view; and most of them haven't done so, 
and the few who have come reasonably close almost cannot explain their view 
clearly and convincingly.  Also, I might add that although I do see this matter 
more clearly than do most people in your physical world, that is only relative, 
and I am far from capable of seeing the entire question of evil in full clarity.  
So you must excuse me if I can give only what seem to be maddeningly vague 
explanations; I am doing the best I can.
 
 
       
       Michael: I appreciate that, and I don't criticize you.  But it is a real 
  thorn in the side of life, to suffer at times, to be aware of the overall 
  suffering in this world, to hope for an end to it, seemingly in vain, and to 
  constantly hear explanations that don't seem to get it right.
 
       
     Bivalia: I understand how it appears to you; I truly do.  But one day you 
will see more clearly; and one day evil, suffering, and pain will come to an end.
 
       
       Michael: I hope so.To come back to Indian summer (which I seem to have on the mind at the 
  moment), it is funny how the various features of it (the mistiness, the orange 
  light, the types of clouds, and so on) seem to have their own particular 
  identity, but when they all come together into Indian summer, they also fit 
  together to make a bigger identity which is the identity of Indian summer, 
  which is like a gestalt, a totality which is more than the sum of its 
  parts.
 
 
       
     Bivalia: All of nature is like that; the whole universe is.  This is true 
spiritually as well as physically.  All the spirits in the universe, of any type, 
do not exist on the same level; it's hierarchical.  You have more basic or 
fundamental spirits, which are comparatively small and particular, and more 
numerous; they come in a great many varieties.  They have certain relationships 
with certain other spirits of the same level, and if you consider a community of 
such spirits, that community can be considered as a spirit on its own, but on a 
higher level or a more complex one.And yes, such a higher-level spirit is more than the sum of its parts.  It 
goes both up and down for many layers, always in that hierarchical sense.  For 
instance, one of the most fundamental spirits is the spirit of a quark.  Then you 
have the spirit of a neutron, for example, or of a proton or an electron or a 
neutrino, and so on.  Now neutrons, etc., are simply combinations of quarks, but 
the collection of quarks makes a bigger particle with its own identity.
 Particles make atoms which are more than the sum of their constituent 
particles, atoms make molecules, molecules make minerals or living tissues, 
depending where they are found, those make bigger things; and you can keep going 
up.  Living things (if we follow that branch of the hierarchy) make families, 
families make communities, communities make species, or perhaps they make an 
eco-system, if we consider a closely-knit community of many different species, 
eco-systems and species (in different ways) make up what we might call a 
macro-environment, these make up a planet, planets and stars make up solar 
systems, which make up galaxies, which make up clusters of galaxies, which make 
up universes, which make up what we can only call super-universes; and so on.  
For all I know, the hierarchy continues downwards for ever from quarks, down to 
ever-more fundamental particles, and upwards from super-universes, one of which 
might for all we know be like a quark in some unimaginably huge entity on a 
higher level.  And a quark in our universe might (for all we know) be an entire 
universe on a much smaller level, with its own sub-sub-sub-microscopic components.
 You had it right, more than you realized, in a story you started quite a 
good many years ago called The Atoll, where you had an ecological 
character called Jim expound a theory of the environment very much like this.  He 
spoke glowingly of the spirit of the atoll he had visited, how loving he found 
it, and regarded it as more than the sum total of all the life-forms found 
there.  He was absolutely right in speaking like this, and I suspect you knew 
this at some semi-conscious level, otherwise you probably wouldn't have put the 
concept into your story.
 It's a pity you never finished the story; perhaps I can still live in hope 
of reading it one day.
 
 
       
       Michael: Perhaps, but don't hold your breath.  My writing of fiction 
  seems to have died away for reasons which it would cause us to stray too much 
  to go into.  You know, to do with the seeming pointlessness of physical life, 
  and of writing about it.
 
       
     Bivalia: Yes.  I hope that phase will pass one day soon.  Your description 
of the spiritual aspects of nature in that story was quite enlightened and showed 
a deep intuitive understanding of these things.  And you threw it in as almost a 
throwaway detail, because it was perhaps not totally relevant to the plot of the 
story.
 
       
       Michael: Well, no, but it was like background detail, and once that's 
  there, it can influence the story in ways you can't foresee, and I think I did 
  have it in mind to do that.  Anyway, it came naturally, and it seemed right to 
  put it in.
 
       
     Bivalia: Quite right, too.  It is interesting that you selected the title 
The Spirit of the Atoll for one of those proposed symphonies you wanted to 
write, The Spirit of the Oasis for another, and so on.
 
       
       Michael: I intended the term "spirit" to be largely figurative, at least 
  to begin with, to convey the sense of "the essence of" or "the atmosphere or 
  feeling of".
 
       
     Bivalia: You were more perceptive than you realized.  What you sought to 
convey was quite literally the spirit of the atoll, the oasis, and so on.  It is 
that which gives those environments that distinct atmosphere you wanted to depict 
in music.  Just as you had the character in the story The Atoll say; he 
referred to the spirit of the atoll, meaning it quite literally, not merely as a 
figure of speech.  Just like I meant the spirit of Indian summer quite literally 
too, which gives it its atmosphere.
 
       
       Michael: I appreciate your point about the hierarchical nature of the 
  natural world, but it's even more complicated.  It seems to me that something 
  can belong to more than one gestalt at a time.  Like the orange sun, for 
  example.  We've already said how it belongs to the group of things associated 
  with Indian summer; but it seems to me to belong to at least one or two other 
  groups.  It also belongs to what I would call the things of the evening, along 
  with a full moon rising (which is always very early in the evening or very 
  late in the afternoon), the evening star (actually the planet Venus), which 
  always sets within a couple of hours of sunset, the red sky on certain 
  evenings, and so on.  All these things belong to the evening, and although 
  each has its own identity, they seem collectively to have an "evening" sort of 
  atmosphere.
 
       
     Bivalia: Of course; you're absolutely right.  There is such a thing as the 
spirit of evening: both the various spirits of various types of evening, and the 
spirit of evening generally which comprises all the evening spirits of various 
particular kinds.  And these spirits are gestalts which are made up of more 
fundamental spirits of things which are characteristic of the evening, or in 
harmony with it.
 
       
       Michael: And of course the orange sunset also belongs to the class of 
  solar phenomena.
 
       
     Bivalia: Yes, the spirit of the sun.
 
       
       Michael: And you can branch out in yet another direction.  I mentioned 
  the full moon rising.  Not only does it belong to the evening, but it also 
  belongs to things of the moon generally.
 
       
     Bivalia: Yes, of course.  The spirit of the moon, or the lunar spirit if 
you like.  Yes, you're right.  It goes on forever in a great interconnected web.  
That's how the universe operates.  You become more aware of these links as you 
grow in spiritual awareness.  I am pleased by the sensitivity to these things you 
seem to show.
 
       
       Michael: Oh, it's nothing.  It becomes pretty obvious over the years if 
  you're a daydreamy sort of person like I am.
 
       
     Bivalia: Well, it may be obvious to you and to me, but there are many 
people who never notice it, who never give it a moment's thought, even if someone 
points it out to them.  They dismiss such ideas as impractical mystical nonsense.
 
       
       Michael: I have probably been guilty of doing so at times, when I'm 
  feeling a bit jaded.  You obviously have no idea of how at times in the past 
  I've thrown off at the New Age generally, of what I called irrationality.
 
       
     Bivalia: Ah, but the difference is that you still think about such ideas; 
you don't dismiss them completely.  Very likely when you've got over your blue 
funk you even consider such ideas more openly, you discuss them with like-minded 
people.  A lot of people wouldn't be seen dead discussing ideas like you and I 
have been doing.
 
       
       Michael: True.  I can think of a few myself.
 
       
     Bivalia: And you yourself have stopped in the street and looked at a sunset 
or a rainbow or a moonrise or some unusual clouds or a spider's web or a bird - 
lots of things, big and small - and have wondered that so many people scurry 
around you like ants before a rainstorm, seemingly quite heedless of the beauty 
which is right before their eyes, if only they look up.  But if they look 
downwards, at all the things of this world, and often the less inspiring aspects 
of this world for that matter, well they miss the beauty.  Beauty tends to make 
you look up (either figuratively or literally), but if you never look up 
(figuratively or literally) you often miss it, then wonder why you feel so 
harried, even if in a worldly sense you are very successful.
 
       
       Michael: I guess so.  You have a funny way of summing things up sometimes.
 
       
     Bivalia: I am a very funny person at times.
 
       
       Michael: Funny peculiar or funny ha-ha?
 
       
     Bivalia: Either, or both!  It's very refreshing at times to be funny, in 
either sense, or even both at the same time.
 
       
       Michael: We've strayed from our topic.
 
       
     Bivalia: Isn't the diversion fascinating?
 
       
       Michael: We might get lost from our home base, so to speak.
 
       
     Bivalia: We are at home wherever we find ourselves.
 
       
       Michael: Speaking of things of the evening, another thing which once 
  fascinated me was the planet Vulcan, which (according to astronomers, and 
  based on well-established principles of physics) doesn't even exist.
 
       
     Bivalia: How little they know.  It exists astrally, if not physically.  Why 
do you think you were so fascinated?  Are you in the regular habit of being 
fascinated by things which don't even exist?
 
       
       Michael: Well, I might do it a bit more often than you think.
 
       
     Bivalia: No matter.  What is existence anyway?  Very few people can say 
whether something non-physical really exists anyway.  And if enough people 
believe in it, they create it astrally if it wasn't there to begin with.However, Vulcan does exist, and has life on it.  The life is so different 
from life as you humans recognize it, that, assuming astronomers could visit the 
planet, they would not notice the life-forms at all.
 
 
       
       Michael: Well, Vulcan was originally postulated last century by the 
  French astronomer Urbain Leverrier, as the only way he could account for 
  certain disturbances of Mercury's orbit which still remained even after the 
  Sun and all the other planets had been taken into account.  He thought there 
  was a very small planet in a very close orbit of the Sun, even closer than 
  Mercury, fearfully hot, and zipping round it even quicker than Mercury's orbit 
  of 88 days.  He, and a few other astronomers, claimed to have seen Vulcan in 
  the telescope, moving across the face of the sun, but the sightings couldn't 
  be repeated later either by them or anyone else.This was before Einstein's Theory of Relativity, which (amongst other 
  things) gave the equations by which matter could be transformed into energy, 
  and vice-versa: you know, the famous "E equals M C squared" formula, which I 
  have even seen on T-shirts.
 It turned out that Einstein's theory accounted exactly for the 
  disturbance of Mercury's orbit.  I don't recall the details, and I'm not 
  physicist enough to understand them, but it seemed like part of Mercury's 
  gravitational field (or was it the Sun's? - I forget) could be considered as 
  matter in an Einsteinian sense (in which sense energy and matter are 
  considered the same), and that extra "matter" could be thrown into the 
  equations by which planetary orbits were calculated; and when you did that, it 
  accounted for the perturbation of Mercury's orbit to a high degree of 
  accuracy; in fact it was one of the very earliest proofs of the accuracy of 
  Einstein's theory.  After that, there was no need for any hidden planet, and 
  astronomers dumped Vulcan practically overnight.  A very good instance of 
  Occam's Razor.  Anyone who believed in Vulcan today would be considered in the 
  same class as astrologers, a few of whom still believe in Vulcan.  (I don't 
  think even most astrologers do, actually.)
 
 
       
     Bivalia: Well, perhaps the astrologers (those who believe in it) are 
right.  Or perhaps it doesn't exist physically.  Perhaps it did once but fell 
into the sun after being disturbed in its orbit, perhaps by a stray asteroid, and 
the astral planet still continues in its orbit.  Perhaps the planet has ascended 
and is not physically detectable any longer.  But if you once felt a strong 
fascination for the planet, you may be sure there is a reason for it, that it 
does exist in some form.  Once again, it has a special atmosphere which almost 
seems to call for a spiritual explanation.
 
       
       Michael: Yes, I wanted to write a story set there; and I wanted to write 
  a piece called The Lost World of Vulcan -
 
       
     Bivalia: I wish you'd actually write some of these stories and music you 
tell me about from time to time.  You have great ideas for such things, which 
would be absolutely wonderful if followed up.  The world needs the sort of art 
you can create, both in music and stories, things which have a sense of wonder, 
which can inspire people.
 
       
       Michael: I am conceited enough to agree with that; but there are 
  difficulties in doing as you suggest.
 
       
     Bivalia: Yes, I know.  But I can wish, nonetheless.
 
       
       Michael: So can I.  Believe me; so can I.
 
       
     Bivalia: Art and music often play a prominent role in the evolution of your 
planet, even of bigger parts of the universe, sometimes for the better, only too 
often for the worse; and what I know you can produce if you put yourself into it 
would be a powerful force for driving wonderful advances in the evolution of your 
planet and solar system.  I wish you would organize yourself to do it.  Even some 
of the ideas you've discussed with me in this and previous sessions would do 
wonders for your world if expressed in music or stories.  The spirit of the 
atoll, Indian summer, Vulcan, whatever.
 
       
       Michael: And I used to look up at the evening sky and daydream about 
  Vulcan, even though I couldn't see a thing.  It really quite obsessed me at 
  one point, about the late 1970s.  I even got an idea for a grand opera on a 
  science-fiction theme called The Fires of Vulcan, set on the planet, 
  and with 
  romantic soaring music, and even worked out the plot in part (which was to 
  have a strong spiritual theme also, not only a rational science-fiction 
  element); but opera's not really my thing, so I suppose that project was 
  stillborn.
 
       
     Bivalia: Well, maybe not.  Perhaps one day, although I can see that project 
is not for right now.  Given the hugeness of opera as a musical form, and the 
economic constraints (getting ever tighter in your society) in mounting big 
things like operas, it seems more like something for after you ascend.One day, after you ascend, you and I are going to have fun visiting 
Vulcan.  You and I, in a manner of speaking.  I mean with you and I fully 
integrated as the one person we really are fundamentally.  But those will be 
great times we will live in one day.
 
 
       
       Michael: Yes; I hope so.  My vision of that is not as clear as yours, 
  though.
 
       
     Bivalia: Just hang on, and don't give up hope, not completely.
 
       
       Michael: Once again, we digressed.  I just gave Vulcan as an example of 
  the things of the evening.  But of course many of those things are also things 
  of the morning.  The evening star is also the morning star at another 
  juxtaposition of Venus's and Earth's orbits, and Mercury is also a smaller 
  evening and morning star, and I suppose Vulcan too, if it exists.
 
       
     Bivalia: Yes.  That is yet another interconnection.  The way you are aware 
of all these sorts of things, you obviously have an inner life much richer than 
your physical life.
 
       
       Michael: Well, that wouldn't be difficult.  It would be quite an 
  accomplishment for it not to be richer than my physical life.
 
       
     Bivalia: You know which is of more value, don't you?
 
       
       Michael: Yes, I suppose so; at least, I know what answer you have in mind 
  to that question.  But that doesn't stop me from wishing my physical 
  circumstances were a whole heap better, and doesn't change my conviction that 
  physical circumstances have a real effect on supposedly spiritual activities 
  such as writing music or even on just my inner life generally.
 
       
     Bivalia: Yes, I grant that.  But it might help for you to be aware that 
many of those people, perhaps not all, but more than you think, who achieve 
worldly success, do so at a considerable price.  They have to accommodate 
themselves to the ways of the world in order to succeed, in most cases, and if 
they had a vision like yours to begin with, that is likely in the process to 
become weakened; and such people are apt to feel pressured and harried all the 
time in a hundred ways.  Because worldly success often means having to conform to 
other people's expectations, they are never really free to be themselves, and 
always feel obliged to do things they would rather not do, even to adopt values 
they don't really like.It happens more than you imagine with those successful people you 
occasionally look at with a degree of envy for their material prosperity.  Some 
of them are much unhappier than you, you know, but they have learned the skill 
(if that's the right term) of hiding it and putting on a cheerful front.  You may 
feel depressed at times, but you have no idea how liberating it is, even at such 
times, to be able to feel free to just be depressed if you feel you must, and not 
have to take on the additional burden of hiding it from other people, or even 
from yourself, as some depressed people do.  Some of them end up being incapable 
of feeling anything at all, because they are so used to suppressing their 
feelings even from themselves.
 It might be good to think about that before wishing you could trade places 
with someone else who appears superficially to be much better off than you.  What 
I have said is not true of all successful people (in the worldly sense), but it 
is true considerably oftener than you tend to think.
 
 
       
     Bivalia: Perhaps I'm lecturing you too much, but it is true; and I say 
things like that to try to make you feel better.  I'll leave it now; when you 
give one-word answers like "Maybe", it tends to indicate you don't entirely agree 
with what I say, but don't want to say so; or else you're just losing interest in 
discussing the matter further.
 
       
       Michael: It's all right; I guess I can take lecturing from you more than 
  from anyone else.  It doesn't always make me feel better, though.
 
       
     Bivalia: No; I see that it doesn't.  But you will feel better one day.  
Your present situation can't continue forever.  If only you knew it, but your 
sense of wonder, your wonderful vision of things like Vulcan or Indian summer, 
would be the envy of many of those whom you at times envy.  They would 
desperately like something wonderful outside of their own small lives to look up 
to, to be inspired by.
 
       
       Michael: Aren't you putting too much on my daydreams about such things?  
  After all, they're not real in any important sense.  I mean, things like 
Indian summer are real in the sense of existing, but it plays no real part in my 
life.  I mean, it's mostly daydreaming, and perhaps can supply ideas for music or 
stories, but that's about it.
 
       
     Bivalia: But those things of the imagination are much more real than you're 
assuming there.  The inner world in a way is the one that counts most of all.  
Don't underestimate it.  You wouldn't give it up for a few more dollars, a little 
more power or prestige, would you?
 
       
       Michael: Well, try me with a few million dollars...
 
       
     Bivalia: If I were in a position to make the offer, I think you would still 
have doubts.  And if you accepted the trade, and lost your vision, I think you 
would realize you had made a big mistake.  Millionaires, powerful people, 
successful people, often have great difficulty dying, leaving your world, and 
adjusting to their new situation - much greater difficulty than you are likely to 
have even if you botch up the rest of your life.
 
       
       Michael: Perhaps.  You're right that that spiritual sense of longing for 
  something great has been the driving force of my life.  It goes right back to 
  childhood, even before I put a name to it, even before I gave a moment's 
  thought to anything spiritual.  And there was such a time, because I only gave 
  more than superficial thought to spiritual things after I met and made friends 
  with my school chaplain at Scotch College here in Melbourne, and I didn't 
  start at that school until the beginning of 1967, when I was nearly 13.
 
       
     Bivalia: But you still had a spiritual life before then, but just didn't 
know it consciously.  That is of relatively little importance.  One does not 
expect children to be so aware of everything spiritual, even if they have it all 
along.
 
       
       Michael: I think my fascination with atolls goes back to those school 
  years, a few years later than 1967 perhaps.  I used to read up about them in 
  the school library back then.  There's no doubt, even then I had a keen 
  awareness of the atmosphere of atolls, at least what I thought the atmosphere 
  was, because of course even now I've never visited one.
 
       
     Bivalia: That isn't really all that important, although it would be nice if 
you could visit one.  (You might like to consider flying to the Cocos Islands (a 
genuine atoll) for a holiday one day; it is now part of Australia, so travel 
arrangements would be fairly simple, and the fare would probably be within your 
reach if you saved up).  But, regardless of visiting atolls or other places, the 
point is you have an awareness of the spiritual dimension of such things.  You 
know, if you really analyzed your mental and emotional life, you might be 
surprised how much of it is spiritual in one way or another.
 
       
       Michael: If spirituality is what you've been describing, I suppose almost 
  all of it is.
 
       
       Michael: I've been aware of the way today's weather (yesterday's, now, if 
  you want to be chronologically accurate) has reminded me of Indian summer, 
  although what we had isn't a real Indian summer.  I was thinking vaguely of 
  the sort of music I might put into the symphony in D minor, Indian 
  Summer, which I've spoken of before - just thinking vaguely of the sort of 
  dreamy, misty sort of music I might put in it, thinking of the type of 
  harmony, orchestration, and the like.  Dominant-7th harmony on D sustained on 
  muted strings, muted trumpets playing a soft, almost distant, E-major passage, 
  and the like.
 
       
     Bivalia: I hope you wrote down what came to mind.
 
       
       Michael: No.  It wasn't anything like definite enough to write down, 
  nothing concrete.  Just vague daydreaming.
 
       
     Bivalia: Well, if you sat down some time and thought it through more 
deliberately, but not choking off intuition, you might come up with ideas you can 
write down, and they might be very good.  This daydreaming sort of thinking about 
music is not enough by itself to actually produce and complete any music, but it 
is the essential starting ground for such music, the ground it germinates in, so 
to speak.  I would like to see you follow up such ideas more, you know.
 
       
       Michael: So would I.  My physical conditions are not favourable to 
  composing, though.  We've gone through this before.
 
       
     Bivalia: Your world needs the sort of work you can produce, you know.
 
       
       Michael: I wish I could oblige, just as much as you wish I could.  But it 
  would be too difficult at present.
 
       
     Bivalia: Perhaps you should try to do something about it.  Organize 
yourself and your place better.  You can probably do more, even as things stand, 
than you have got into the habit of thinking.  Ask me or the Masters, or even God 
Himself, to be with you continuously if it would help you get on with it.  Ask 
your guides, ask for some angels.  Ask all of these beings; go the whole 
hog, if it helps.  You mustn't ever hold back because you think you've already 
asked enough, or invoked enough Masters, and thus feel reluctant to go further. 
God helps those who help themselves.  Trite as it may sound, the old saying is 
true.  It isn't that God is too miserable to help those who won't help 
themselves; but those who do invoke powerful spiritual forces which almost can't 
help calling in God, regardless of whether they think consciously about Him, and 
those who don't help themselves tend to get progressively cut off from this 
spiritual power, and can find themselves in a degree of darkness.  It seems to be 
a natural law of the universe, and both of these effects (helping yourself and 
invoking spiritual power, or failing to do so) are cumulative, and their effects 
tend to multiply over a period of time, like exponential growth.
 
       
     Bivalia: That's why I asked you to work with your dreams; and I notice you 
haven't done your homework of deliberately trying to influence your dreams, then 
writing down what you remember.  I suggested that two sessions back.
 
       
       Michael: Yeah, I know.  It isn't that easy to change, and the whole 
  exercise at that time just seemed rather pointless.
 
       
     Bivalia: Perhaps.  But what seems pointless now may not later, and I would 
like you to reconsider doing what I suggested back then.  I still think it would 
be a good way for you to work on yourself; and without working on yourself, your 
progress will be slow and difficult, although perhaps not come to a complete 
halt, because I happen to think you have enough innate spiritual awareness to 
make progress anyway; but I can practically assure you that your progress, if you 
don't make more effort to try to help yourself (with much help from me and God 
and the Masters, of course), will be slow enough to be thoroughly frustrating, 
and to even be almost invisible at times.  So please think about it some more.  
And do write down any musical ideas you get, however hopeless you feel about 
composing in general at that time.  I suspect that if you rethink the musical 
thoughts about Indian summer you had earlier on, you might come up with at least 
some sketchy ideas that you can write down.
 
       
       Michael: Yes, I guess so.  It's not much, but it might serve as the basis 
  for some good ideas.
 
       
     Bivalia: I'm sure it will.
 
       
       Michael: Well, you know, I'm getting a bit cold, and I want to have a 
  bite to eat before I go to bed, and I think we're winding down anyway, so I 
  wonder if I might excuse myself.
 
       
     Bivalia: Of course; but although you might close this session, I will still 
be with you.  Just keep talking to me, in the first or the third person, as you 
see fit.  That will help you become aware of me, and of our fundamental unity 
with each other.
 
       
       Michael: Perhaps.  I find you more difficult to talk to than the Masters, 
  I suppose because I'm not sure how much you are me, exactly, and how much you 
  are to some extent different, and that makes you seem illusory altogether.
 
       
     Bivalia: If it helps you any, I can take on the persona of a completely 
separate individual, like the Masters can.  But at an even more fundamental 
level, they and you are the same, just as you and I are at a 
not-quite-so-fundamental level.  It's all relative, and it's all done with 
mirrors anyway; a lot of what you see is illusion and reflection and distortion, 
anyway.  Don't bother yourself too much about who's who, and who's real, and 
whether someone is "really" someone else at a more spiritual level, and so on.  
Just speak to anyone at all, including me, in whatever way feels best.
 
       
       Michael: Well, I think cold is taking over from whatever scattered 
  thoughts I still had.  If I think of anything else, I might add it in the 
  morning (later in the morning, I should say).  Good night, Bivalia.
 
       
     Bivalia: Good night, Michael.  Sweet dreams.  And you know what I mean by 
that.
 
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